Conventional Wisdom Reborn!

Beyond Dominia: The Type One Magic Mill: Conventional Wisdom Reborn!

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By jpmeyer, paragon of wiener (Jpmeyer) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 06:32 pm:

After I decided to cut Duress from Keeper due to a lack of FoFs to force through, I also had to cut Hollistic Wisdom due to a lack of sorceries. However, Judgement has given us the Wishes. This gives me three reasons to bring HW back:

1) The Wishes themselves are sorceries
2) Burning Wish also needs extra sorceries to be effective
3) I need to increase my green mana to cast Living Wish

Conventional Wisdom v2.0

4 City of Brass
3 Underground Sea
3 Volcanic Island
3 Tropical Island
3 Wasteland
2 Tundra
1 Undiscovered Paradise
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Strip Mine

5 Moxen
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Zuran Orb

4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
1 Misdirection
1 Morphling
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Braingeyser (potential open slot)

1 Chainer's Edict
1 The Abyss
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Mind Twist
1 Yawgmoth's Will

1 Sylvan Library
1 Hollistic Wisdom
1 Living Wish
1 Regrowth (potential open slot)

1 Fire/Ice
1 Vindicate

1 Balance

1 Gorilla Shaman

SB:
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Circle of Protection: Red
1 Hydroblast
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Aura Fracture
1 Perish
1 Pyroclasm
1 Obliterate
1 Timetwister
1 Masticore
1 Morphling
1 Dwarven Miner

The current slots that are up for debate are:

1) Switch SB Morphling with Braingeyser
2) Regrowth for Teferi's Response
3) Regrowth for Mis-D #2
4) Obliterate for Kaervek's Torch
5) Obliterate for Call of the Herd


By White Knight (White_Knight) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 08:21 pm:

How could a single call of the herd be good? If you want to pack something in the SB to fetch with living wish pack phyrexian negator.


By White Knight (White_Knight) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 08:23 pm:

hmmm... JP... where's burning wish?


By jpmeyer, paragon of wiener (Jpmeyer) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 08:30 pm:

Oops it should be there, since the list there is only 59 cards.


By jpmeyer, paragon of wiener (Jpmeyer) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 08:32 pm:

Living Wish fetches Miner against control and Burning Wish doesn't fetch Negator :-P


By White Knight (White_Knight) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 08:35 pm:

No, I know it doesn't. I was speaking about living wish for negator.


By Gizzard (Gizzard) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 10:07 pm:

Mmm, one Morphing. "Sir! The primary Morphling has flamed out! Should we switch to backup Morphling?! Brace for impact?? What are you saying Sir?! We did not install a backup Morphling?! WTF!" :-)

I am also intrigued by the Chainers Edict. A typo, or are you seriously considering it? I havent playtested it, so I dont know, but flashing back for 7 just seems too much investment in this type of control deck.

How about the Vindicate? I thought a lot of people tested this when it came out and it really didnt go anywhere, being a 3cc sorcery and all.

I've been thinking of trying a greener Keeper with Oaths, Holistic Wisdom and perhaps Nostalgic Dreams. Still in the "thinking" stage though, rather than the "doing" stage.


By Gizzard (Gizzard) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 10:10 pm:

Silly me; green wish = Morphling. Expensive Morphling, but Morphling nonetheless. Somehow I was stuck on the idea that the Wish would go in the Shaman slot, not the Morphling slot. I wonder which is the correct way to do it? I think there are good arguements for either.


By CooberP, the Aura Fracturer of B2Bs (Cooberp) on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 10:51 pm:

I still like maindeck Duress, but found that Burning Wish just didn't get enough against control. I like Cunning Wish much better--gets REB, StP, Response, MisD, Edict depending on the situation. Here's the list I'm experimenting with:

//NAME: Keeper
// Counters (9)
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
1 Counterspell
// Draw (5)
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Braingeyser
1 Sylvan Library
// Search (5)
1 Cunning Wish
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Living Wish
// Discard (4)
3 Duress
1 Mind Twist
// Board Control (4)
1 The Abyss
1 Fire/Ice
1 Balance
1 Hull Breach
// Recursion (2)
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Holistic Wisdom
// Utility (2)
1 Zuran Orb
1 Time Walk
// Kill (1)
1 Morphling
// Mana (28)
4 City of Brass
4 Underground Sea
3 Tropical Island
3 Volcanic Island
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Tundra
1 Undiscovered Paradise
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Sol Ring
// Sideboard (15)
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Powder Keg
1 Misdirection
1 Circle of Protection: Red
1 Dwarven Miner
1 Morphling
1 Masticore
1 Gorilla Shaman
1 Teferi's Response
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Aura Fracture


By CooberP, the Aura Fracturer of B2Bs (Cooberp) on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 10:31 am:

Another idea: Board Academy in Keeper? When you have the mana artifacts out and no monkey, go nuts? And they do have a point that if you SB Academy in Academy you get 4...but somehow it doesn't seem right to me. Someone please explain why.


By Aaron (Aaron) on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 08:54 pm:

Jps your mana looks like shit.


By jpmeyer, paragon of wiener (Jpmeyer) on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 09:10 pm:

Yeah I know :(


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